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Lenco L-3808 Turntable: Direct Drive on a Budget
24th May 2017
Want to go direct drive but are afraid of the expense? Lenco might have a surprise for you. Paul Rigby reviews the Lenco L-3808 (and provides a money off deal: see the end of the review)
Right, take a quick look at the price point below and then take a gander at the images and you just know that Made In China or similar is hidden somewhere within the chassis of this Lenco design. At this point the analogue snobs will lift their nose and leave the room. Still here? I’m glad, because this little turntable has a few surprises in store.
But what about that strobe light and pop-up light (for DJ use) that will immediately warn you that this might be a sad little Technics 1200 rip off? In this case, first impressions are very wrong indeed (although the turntable is recommended as an effective budget DJ tool, that’s true).
The construction is relatively solid for this price point with an all up weight of 5.4kg (the competing Dual MTR-75 weighs in at 4kg, for example).
The unit arrives with a dust cover but I would recommend removing it during play to avoid noise from its rather shaky mounting. By all means put it back, in place, when your listening session in over to protect from the dust.
The S-shaped arm looks and feels flimsy and small but it is secured well with an arm lock to prevent accidents. At the end of the arm is a removable headshell containing a standard (for this price) Audio Technica AT-3600 cartridge which Lenco asks you to run at a tracking force of 2g. Interesting because Dual, via its MTR-75 turntable, requests that you run exactly the same cartridge at around 3.25g! I know which one I’d rather place in my vinyl grooves! If you do buy yourself this deck, upgrade to a better cartridge ASAP. Something non-conical too which will enhance detail retrieval and the sonics immeasurably.
A manual turntable, beginners will be happy to see an arm lift which worked easily and well. An included moving magnet phono stage (which appears to be similar to that featured in the Dual MTR-75) is fitted within the chassis to save costs and to enable you to connect the deck to an amplifier’s line input or powered speakers. It can be switched to accept an external phono amplifier too, something that I would highly recommend as soon as you can afford one to further increase sound quality. A USB digital output is also present that can be used with the included Audacity music editing software to enable digital recording of your analogue discs. A mains cable is pre-fitted to the turntable.
IN USE
I found that, playing the turntable at 33.33, I did have to move the pitch adjustment just a tad from the default ‘0’ postion, to correct a slight speed drop.
OK, there’s no quartz control connected to the direct drive motor here, so you can’t expect nailed on speed control but it ain’t too bad once you get to grips with the pitch adjustment. The 8-pole, 2-phase design does a decent job considering the price.
Apart from that, the Lenco sprang into life without any issues.
SOUND QUALITY
I began the sound tests playing a selection of the 80s minimalist synth outfit, Bizarre Unit, combining vocals, sparse early synths with organic instruments
One of the principle failings of the budget turntable – even more so the sub-budget table – is how very much out of control it is in terms of assembling and presenting diverse frequencies to your ear. Just about everything that can go wrong normally will: blooming bass, smearing midrange and faltering stereo image with a flat soundstage and no character to any of the instruments. The Lenco addresses many of these failings from the core of one single feature: it’s direct drive motor. This single, yet essential, feature gives the turntable that one essential weapon in its sonic armoury, control. Because of the direct drive motor, there is far more focus and precision in terms of overall presentation than you would normally expect at the low, low price point.
Apart from the stereo image being rock solid and central, the bass was noticeably heavier than normal with a heft and weight that added significant presence to the entire track. Drums were meaningful and full of character, giving a foundation to the music that moved it forward at a steady pace while the midrange was, for the price, so accurate it actually created air and space in the soundstage, allowing more vocal reverb to be ‘visible’. This accuracy also infused the electric guitar with a sense of extra speed, as the transient performance improved immeasurably. The bass guitar also had more form and character. The vocals – both male and female – exuded emotion but also the delivery provided new details and nuance while the synths stopped spewing their smearing frequencies over everywhere and kept themselves to themselves. They no longer tried to mask subtle details, giving the music a richer flavour.
I then moved to the jazz vocal of Gogi Grant and the track By Myself, from the 1960 LP, Granted It’s Gogi on Living Stereo.
Grant’s wide ranging and dynamic vocal needs space and air to expand into and the Lenco, considering it’s low price point, certainly offered that. Grant fairly sparkled into a stereo image that pushed backwards as a 3D effect, allowing her big band orchestra to play around her. The focus upon her vocal allowed the ear to follow each element of her delivery with some ease.
The brass offered no brightness or stridency but, instead, had a texture through the vibrational effects of the performance giving an admirably brassy tone to this section of the backing band while keeping a measure of reverb to add energy to its effect.
Bass, from this direct drive, bounced and responded splendidly. The double bass having a notable sense of power and control on the early parts of this track. Percussion was particularly successful off this track. Partly, because the precise treble performance allowed the cymbals to offer both delicacy but also accuracy.
CONCLUSION
It’s not perfect – how can it be at £200? This is a sub-budget design so the myriad of tiny design quirks can and should be forgiven. The sound quality, meanwhile, is absolutely superb. A real shocker because it really shouldn’t be at this low, low, price. The Lenco is a solid (in plastic terms, at any rate), great sounding and easy to use turntable. A top class budget performer and a brilliant choice for anyone wanting to enter the vinyl fray.
LENCO L-3808 TURNTABLE Price: £200 Tel: 0333 1234 603 Website: www.lencouk.com TO BUY CLICK BELOW: UK - https://amzn.to/35TNWIA EUROPE - https://amzn.to/35ZtSV4
GOOD: precision, focus, ease of use, bass, price, direct drive
BAD: slight initial speed adjustment required
RATING: 9
REFERENCE
Dual MTR-75 turntable
Trichord Dino phono amplifier
Rega Brio-R amplifier
Spendor S3/5R speakers
Tellurium Q cabling
Harmonic Resolution Systems Noise Reduction Components
All vinyl was cleaned using an Audio Desk’s Ultrasonic Pro Vinyl Cleaner
yes , otherwise is dead silence! its not that it cant play loud but in my opinion,not
as loud as the dvd/cd player.i have the stylus to 3,5 gr as a.t. suggests for at6300 catridge.
that s why i asked you if another catridge with higher output will help.i heard that something
with Output 5,0 mV could solve that matter.
Again, the cart shouldn’t be the issue here. And I assume that the correct source is selected from the front-mounted controls? If you can, please check the Lenco with another amp to see if the issue is not an internal problem. Also, swop the amp leads to other sockets in case the amp has an issue. Otherwise, I suspect the issue is more with the general quality of the amp itself, rather than the Lenco. The amp is your weak spot here in the chain (the speakers would be next after that). It’s not exactly hi-fi. I’ve come across products like this in the past myself and would encourage you, if you want to get the most from your Lenco, to upgrade. A quality new model can be found for ¬£200 but I’m sure – with *very careful* shopping – that you could buy a good one from eBay for much less. Another alternative is a pair of powered speakers which will add the advantage of lowering the footprint of your system as the amp is included within the speaker cabinets. I would also lighten the tracking force, as per my review suggestion. Increasing the tracking force to 3.5g will have no affect on volume.
thank you very much paul for sharring your experience.i have many vinyls from 80’s/90s and after your review i made a comeback to the analog world. i love cds , spotify is ok just to be updated but vinyl
is something else.you are right,gradually i will have to update my equipment.i want to ask you something more:
the new amps dont need grounding? (if i understand right you said something about that in another comment).
moreover if you have powered speakers you put lenco on phono or line mode?
Hi gns – if you have powered speakers, you would have to flick the switch to Line again to use the internal phono amp. Grounding normally occurs when, say, you attach another component to the amp. It’s to stop a ‘ground loop’, the thing that causes a hum. In general terms, you only need to worry about this if the component comes with a ground wire. That wire needs then to be attached to an ‘earth’ connection on your amp or an external phono amp. I wouldn’t worry about it, though, for now. If it ever comes up in the future, send me a note.
the tamon ex-400 speakers i have are 35w rms 8ohns. if i choose an amp with higher watts,
i.e. 65 W/Ch (8 Œ©) is there any chance to “burn” the speakers? https://www.e-shop.gr/onkyo-a-9030-integrated-stereo-amplifier-2x65w-black-p-PER.707019. for now i made another trick,through a split
i deliver the sound of lenco to my logitech x-230 speakers so i can use the woofer.i there i chance
to cause any damage?
The Onkyo amp is a decent choice – mainly aimed at AV use, Onkyo’s amplifier modules are pretty good. As for burn out? Depends how loud you need to drive your speakers. the figures only tell you half the story in this case. Half of the reason to use a powerful amp is to drive the amp comfortably at around half power or a bit more. If you drive an amp to the end stops, it sounds stressed and strained. You’ll know yourself, if there’s an issue because the speakers will screech at you and will start to ‘clip and break up in terms of sound output.
thanks for your anser paul.no i dont intend to use the amp to the limits.and this purchase won t happen any time soon.any comment for this one? https://www.e-shop.gr/teac-a-r630mkii-black-p-PER.706737
Not bad but I’d plump for the Onkyo.
what s your opinion about these paul?
https://www.e-shop.gr/cambridge-audio-minx-xl-bookshelf-speakers-set-gloss-black-p-PER.707157
Yes – pretty good speakers. They should work well for you.
thanks paul.something else now. why is it better(if it is) to use the phone input of your amp and not the record player,s pre-amplifier? also whats the use of the direct mode on the amp?
Direct mode gives a more ‘direct’ route for the music. From the source (ie turntable, Cd player, etc) to your ears. It avoids tone controls and the like, for example. Moving across the latter picks up ‘noise’ which masks fine sonic detail. Use Direct Mode when you can.
Similarly, use an external phono amp in preference to a built in mode for the same reason. Moving the phono electronics away from the main amp stops the phono bit being infected from electrical noise from the power supply, capacitors, etc. When I say ‘noise’ I don’t mean sirens and babies crying. This stuff has been tuned out by the brain. You tend to notice it when it’s gone. As I say, it masks finer detail
is it true that the new speakers (and amp) need some time for the full potential?
Indeed they do, yes. The time can vary depending on the brand/model.
hello paul,i want to ask you this:when i have the amp to the phone mode and i have also ie
spotify open in another line when i dont play any record i seems that i hear from “distance”
the track that currently play on the pc. why this happening? would it be better when i have the
amp in phone mode to disconnect all the other sources of sound? i really dont get it.
Hi giannis – your deck should be connected to the Phono amp. So vinyl music will play through there. I assume that your PC/Spotify is connected to another source socket? Turn the source knob/buttons on the front of the amp to match the PC connection to hear Spotify.
yes that s what i do.But when i m to phono mode (and dont play any record) and of course i have the
pc/spotify in another socket i can still hear from a “distance” the music from -say- line 1 that my pc
is connected.any explanation about this?
Ah, you mean there’s an sound unwanted leakage? Are you still using that original amp we talked about?
no, i found on amazon italy the onkyo a-9030 in bargain price and i grabed it !
I’m interested to know, if you’re playing Spotify via a PC, why you’re then listening through the Phono section and not just enjoying Spotify?